[jadmin] What happened to Bandersnatch, the Jabber conversation logging package?

[Victor Danilchenko]

I am about to upgrade my Jabber server (Ubuntu Hardy => Lucid), and In
doing preliminary checks, I suddenly realized that Bandersnatch has
pretty much vanished from, the face of the earth! it's not in the Ubuntu
repositories, old links lead to no-longer-extant servers, old
repositories don't have it... it feels almost orwellian or something.

Does anyone know what happened to Bandersnatch? I did manage to track
down a Bandersnatch 0.4.1 repository, at
http://www2.frugalware.org/mirror/old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bandersnatch/
, but now i am really wondering what happened. Did it get renamed? Did
something replace it? Did it suddenly turn out to be a creation of
microsoft satan or something?

I am concerned now. Bandersnatch is an integral part of our product,
but if it can't be made to work with Jabber 14 1.6, we are SOL.

Can anyone clue me in? Please?..

[Ludovic BOCQUET]

Post by Victor Danilchenko
I am about to upgrade my Jabber server (Ubuntu Hardy => Lucid),
and In doing preliminary checks, I suddenly realized that Bandersnatch
has pretty much vanished from, the face of the earth! it's not in the
Ubuntu repositories, old links lead to no-longer-extant servers, old
repositories don't have it... it feels almost orwellian or something.
Does anyone know what happened to Bandersnatch? I did manage to
track down a Bandersnatch 0.4.1 repository, at
http://www2.frugalware.org/mirror/old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bandersnatch/
, but now i am really wondering what happened. Did it get renamed? Did
something replace it? Did it suddenly turn out to be a creation of
microsoft satan or something?
I am concerned now. Bandersnatch is an integral part of our
product, but if it can't be made to work with Jabber 14 1.6, we are SOL.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bandersnatch.html

Maybe you can try an another XMPP server like ejabberd, Prosody,
Openfire, Tigase, ...

Post by Victor Danilchenko
Can anyone clue me in? Please?..
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[Victor Danilchenko]

Post by Ludovic BOCQUET
Maybe you can try an another XMPP server like ejabberd, Prosody,
Openfire, Tigase, ...

I was actually considering that. However, our jabber server MUST
perform 2 critical functions -- MUC and complete conversation logging. I
checked out both ejabberd and Jabber 2 before, and I know both support
MUC, but AFAIK Bandersnatch is the only package that does complete
logging of conversations -- and it's the reliance on apparently
no-longer-supported Bandersnatch that's the stumbling block for us.

Does any other jabber server package allow you to log all conversation
content, a-la bandersnatch, do you know? If so, we would gladly look
into migration.

many thanks in advance.

[Jesse Thompson]

Post by Ludovic BOCQUET
Maybe you can try an another XMPP server like ejabberd, Prosody,
Openfire, Tigase, ...

I was actually considering that. However, our jabber server MUST perform
2 critical functions -- MUC and complete conversation logging. I checked
out both ejabberd and Jabber 2 before, and I know both support MUC, but
AFAIK Bandersnatch is the only package that does complete logging of
conversations -- and it's the reliance on apparently no-longer-supported
Bandersnatch that's the stumbling block for us.
Does any other jabber server package allow you to log all conversation
content, a-la bandersnatch, do you know? If so, we would gladly look
into migration.

I haven't used it, but there is that sort of ejabberd module.

http://www.ejabberd.im/mod_logdb

If that's not exactly what you need, there are a bunch more modules that
you can look into

http://www.ejabberd.im/contributions

Jesse

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[Victor Danilchenko]

Post by Jesse Thompson

Post by Ludovic BOCQUET
Maybe you can try an another XMPP server like ejabberd, Prosody,
Openfire, Tigase, ...

I was actually considering that. However, our jabber server MUST perform
2 critical functions -- MUC and complete conversation logging. I checked
out both ejabberd and Jabber 2 before, and I know both support MUC, but
AFAIK Bandersnatch is the only package that does complete logging of
conversations -- and it's the reliance on apparently no-longer-supported
Bandersnatch that's the stumbling block for us.
Does any other jabber server package allow you to log all conversation
content, a-la bandersnatch, do you know? If so, we would gladly look
into migration.

I haven't used it, but there is that sort of ejabberd module.
http://www.ejabberd.im/mod_logdb

Thanks, that looks like exactly the sort of thing which would work for
us if I can't get Bandersnatch running (they also have a log-to-text
module, which we should be able to work with if the above isn't
compatible with ejabberd 2).

Now I just need to figure out why my client can't authenticate with the
server...

[Tomasz Sterna]

Post by Victor Danilchenko
Does any other jabber server package allow you to log all conversation
content, a-la bandersnatch, do you know?

As of 2012-02-12 [1] jabberd2 allows this.
Without any additional software.


[1] https://github.com/Jabberd2/jabberd2/commit/cc284d2d65

[Tomasz Sterna]

Post by Victor Danilchenko
Does anyone know what happened to Bandersnatch?

https://www.funkypenguin.co.nz/project/bandersnatch/

[Victor Danilchenko]

Aha! Google kept sending me to a server in .za domain, which was gone
from the net. Thanks.

Any idea why it vanished from the Ubuntu repositories?

Post by Tomasz Sterna

Post by Victor Danilchenko
Does anyone know what happened to Bandersnatch?

https://www.funkypenguin.co.nz/project/bandersnatch/

[Victor Danilchenko]

Well, this is getting surreal.

So the file link at the URL you send doesn't work -- the file doesn't
exist. I went to the Wayback Machine, it didn't have this file. I
scanned for the same file from the old homepage,
http://www.funkypenguin.co.za/ ; Wayback machine had it, but it was a
corrupt archive. I searched for the 0.4.RC1 archive by name
(bandersnatch-0.4.RC1.tar.gz), and turned it up in the BSD ports repository.

I finally got it from
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/garga/jabber/bandersnatch-0.4.RC1.tar.gz

This is seriously weird. And it looks to me like Bandersnatch is a
long-dead project, so to be able to run our stuff in the future, we will
probably need some alternative way of logging all Jabber conversations.

Anyway, thanks for the help. Looks like I will be rebuilding it from
source. Shouldn't be hard to make it work manually instead of a .deb.

Post by Victor Danilchenko
Aha! Google kept sending me to a server in .za domain, which was gone
from the net. Thanks.
Any idea why it vanished from the Ubuntu repositories?

Post by Tomasz Sterna

Post by Victor Danilchenko
Does anyone know what happened to Bandersnatch?

https://www.funkypenguin.co.nz/project/bandersnatch/